Second Review of Chapters 1 + 2 (09.28.2025)

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So, we'll see. see who else is coming, because I I would not be surprised if Isaac and Hannah were not coming. We're not here. And then who else? Yusuf, yes, no? No, he's not coming. Okay, he's not coming. Is Brandon. Brandon. Okay. Yeah, you're. Yeah, yeah. It's true. And he's got to get kids to Sunday school, so he may be a minute late if he's here. But let's. Okay, well, let's just begin in this place of. We did this last week, too, for those of you who were in the new members's class, but just kind of get our bearings like, where are we all at? Because, like I told you at the beginning, the schedule is arbitrary in that we can we'll do whatever we need to do as much as we need to do.. And we obviously it's at some pace, whatever the pace is, we want to move forward, but also, if we move forward and everyone's none ready to move forward, then it's just going to get too overwhelming, and you're either not really going to get it or you're gonna want to quit, and we don't want that. So, for chapter 1, the alphabet, for chapter 2, the first of bunch announs. Where's everyone out? Let's just. This is a judgment free zone. Just speak honestly. do we need to spend some more time reviewing? Is everyone feeling comfortable? Okay, I'm seeing some noding for that. Yeah. reviewing? Well, Is anyone, like, I am I'm locked, I'm good on one and two, I'm completely ready for chapter three. Is there anyone Okay, no, that's okay. That's okay. So do we who has at least like, put time in on both chapters Or is everyone still like locked in on chapter one? Or is everyone just been busy? Where are we at? Who's Who's still working on chapter one? Alpha p. Okay. It's more like the second part of chapter one, like with the accents and all of that. Okay. Yeah. That's and that's fine. Like, really don't worry too much about that. Don't don't get bogged down feeling like, and if you want to, like really know that well, cool. But it's that's really not that important. For this, let me just tell you this reason we talked about this week one. Number one, the accents are arbitrary. They're artificial. They're made up. Number two, the original point of the accent is something that doesn't really apply to coin A Greek. The accents kind of just showed you where to place the emphasis on the word, and thirdly, you're never going to have to manufacture or write this, like, think of how to write this on your own. You're always going to be reading it from your New Testament, which is always going to have the accents where they need to be. So if you want to really feel like you've got them down good, that's cool, but really knowing the alphabet is the most important thing from Chatter, Jerry. The alphabet memorization, I'm in my own case, I tried to break it up into pronunciation, mainly through the alphabet song. Yeah. Right. Recognizing the alphabet, your little exercise that you did last week, seriously helped. Okay. Even if we didn't know no long. Yeah, it really helped. And then related to that writing them. Okay, so I got I met the at first I focused on the alphabet song in singing in, right? Yeah. But then I noticed, I says, okay, I'm just learning the song, period, I need to go beyond that. So I have to, my next step was to visualize those letters as I am singing. Yeah. singinging. And that helped, too. Yeah. Then I found two resources that helped, but I wasn't sure if I really needed to go there. One was Google Translate. That can be very helpful. But that's all based on modern Greek, and I was thinking, am I going to be you know, damaging myself in that process and related to that, I found out that at least on my Android phone, there's, you know, you can download keyboards, including Gree. Right. And I did that and I thought, oh, I can do this, you know, just bring up my notepad and type the characters out instead of writing them. Because writing them, some of these characters are a serious pain in the butt to to write. Like C. Yeah. Okay, how do this looks like like Esilon with a weird taelon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, there's other letters that are, whoa, you know, there's so many that are similar to opicron. Yeah. You know, like, oh, the sigma, okay, we got oicron with little swish. on it. And so trying to visualize those, recognize those. Right. I've been trying to work. Okay. And that's been helpful. I think it has. Okay. I think it has. I'm not certain yet. But now I'm still in chapter one, but I'm getting a little bit better at some of the pronunciation quizzes. Okay. in there. I figure if I can read it at least pronounce it phatically correctly, I'm I'm going down the road the right way. Yeah. These are just my observations. Absolutely. Absolutely. So in chapter 1, you know the alphabet, then what diphongs are, that's important, right? The diphthongs? Yeah, that's important. This is all to them up, though, right? I mean, just, because you said, don't worry about memorizing, right? No, yeah, and again, that's just for pronunciation. Again, you're not ever going to have to think like, I'm writing this out, what letters go to get. It's all going to be there in the Bible. And that's really just pronouncing it in the artificial way that we've all agreed that we're going to pronounce it. So, from chapter 1, the main thing is the alphabet. Yes. Don't Get hung up on, like, breathing marks and accent, marks, no. Okay.. 'Cause that's something along the way too, especially the more you get through this stuff and you're actually trying to like read through your New Testament, if you have any, like, oh, what's this? I'm coming across me, I don't know," Then you look it up and that's how it's really, really gonna stick with you long term, is when you're actually in the text and you're having to deal you know, figure certain things out because you're going to be working hard to do that, and you, oh, okay. Like, now I know, because I was translating John 1, and, like, I didn't know what this was, and I looked it up. and, okay, that's what it is. Instead of just this kind of rog memorization, but this is the. I don't want to even say the best way. This is the way that I did it, went through it and learned it, and this is a way to expose us to everything, so that when we get to the point of actually, like, you know, trying to read through the New Testament that, you know, we've got the tools in our tool belt, some familiarity with some things. But of course, the alphabet, you know, if we don't have the alphabet, then we're you, we're really not gonna get far. So Okay, so are we all we all agreeing together that we are not ready for chapter 3 today? Let's talk chapters 1 and chapters 2 Okay, is that I'm I'm seeing Gabi, Gabby, I'm sorry, Gabby nodding. I just mixed g. How do you say it in Spanish? Okay, there you go. We'll just add Spanish to it. Gabby nodding. But is, yeah, no one else is feeling brave to then let's do that, unless anybody, I guess, is objecting, because we really, again, I don't we don't want to start piling on. And then then you're just like, I gotta quit this. This is too much. Are you disappointed? We're not? I'm not disappointed. No, no, no, no, I'm not disappointed at all. Honestly, I didn't know coming into this what we would be able to do. I told Jim NoS just out in the foyer a few minutes ago, I said, I didn't know if I would announce this, and no one would be interested at all, you? And so the fact that we've had such a big group both in this one and the other little cohort we have, is encouraging. And so, no, this is we don't there's no deadline, you know, we don't have the end of the semester with the final exam here. We're doing what we do, and we'll get through what we get through, and then if we come to May and everyone's like, that's enough Greek for me, then we can be done. If we want to continue in some former fashion, we can. No, it's this is just, hey, is there is it possible that some people at church who don't go to seminary, don't go to Bible College, can learn some Greek? So. Okay, then let's do some review of chapter one and chapter 2, then. Let's try to. Now, remember this, and this is the helpful kind of meeting place we have to explain and to not feel like we're alone and all that, but for this really to stick, there is going to have to be time outside of Sunday morning that we put into it. Dr. Brett wisely reminded us that 10 minutes a day is more helpful for us than 70 minutes a week. So I know everyone's schedule is different and no one's, you know, don't feel guilty about your life coming before your Greek studies, but if you have the ability, the time howob your schedule works to look at it a little bit each day versus, you know, trying to cram it all in on a given day, that's going to be more beneficial, for all of us. But again, life is life and jobs and kids and marriages and extended family and church and everything else is way more important. This is just for fun, okay? Let's remind ourselves, this is just for fun. Are we all so nerdy that we think this is fun? I'm assuming so. That's why we're all here. It's still fun. It's fun.. This is just for fun. Yeah, yeah. It can be crazy. It's It's learning a different language, and in a way, it's learning a dead language. It's learning a language to read one book primarily, right? And that's our goal. That's our purpose. I you kind of mentioned don't, and I was being texting while you're talking about it. saying don't like, you get hung up on too much of these outside of the off. I just want to give a plug two to like conversation we had in that cohart today about the dipong specifically, is that like if you gave me the chart and I had to reproduce it, like I would struggle, but I've been on the Greek long enough where as soon as I see I immediately know it. So, like try to find the things like some things and we'll get this eventually, but like, I think in chapter 3, like, like Jesus is a irregular noun. And so you just gotta learn the way Jesus is translated. So realizers things that are like unique, but like, where things look self-ex explanatory, sometimes HS are. Like, in the depth on chart of ale, you never see aisle and things isle. Like, you know what I mean? Like you always intuitively hear that is Isle, you know what I mean? So, like, when you hear the, when you look at the dipthong chart, a lot of those, like what they look like they sound, that's what they sound like. You know what I mean? So I was thinking that they're so similar that I was thinking that I don't have to think about. trying to like, okay, let' try and then rise a six d thumbs whatever. Just like when you, you know, like you can say I don't need to worry about that because when I see that I you know what it. Yeah, same same with me. I probably couldn't tell you what all the more off the top of my head, but when I see him, I know them. Can I write something on the board, actually? Is that okay? About the defects? hold on. Someone's trying to take over. This is helpful for me the dip is you have two A's and they're I, you have two's and they' IU. You have two O's and they're IU. And then you have a U, which you wouldn't have in a W, so you have a 9. So it's like two A's, two Es, two O's and a U, and then you have the I over each. So if that's helpful for you, that's how it helps are you. That's how in my head is. That's all It's all the short vowels ending in either Eoda or. Yeah. So you're ending for the dip thongs will always be an I orU, but it's just helpful to see, like, okay, A A E O O U for me. So. So these are the only dipfongs, right? I think A? Yeah. Okay, yeah. That's all you're going to see in words is that combination. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so Exactly. Yeah. So, a little encouragement from scripture, we read this last week, but again, some of you were not here because you were joining our church and we're so pumped about that. That was way more important than being here last week. But when we'll read you this verse again to give us some encouragement from Revelation 22, verse 13, this is Jesus speaking. He says,Emega.. I am the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. So even as we are learning our Greek alphabet, we're reminded that this is all about Jesus. Jesus says, I am the alpha and the omega. He uses the Greek alphabet. I'm the A to Z to describe the reality of who he is. He's everything. He's the first and the last, he's the beginning and the end, the beginning, and the goal. And so our goal with this is to know Jesus better. To love Jesus more, to trust Jesus more, to obey Jesus more, to rest in Jesus more, even as we are doing something as fun and laborious as trying to learn. The Greek alphabet. So, do we want to, much like we did last week, do we want to do an alphabet and review, or do we feel like that that our time would be better spent? Otherwise, Jerry, you thought you said you thought it was super helpful. Do you feel like it'd still be helpful, or do you feel like you've got it better now that you wouldn't that you wouldn't need that? or anywhere else? I certainly wouldn't hurt people to do it again. Okay. I'd like to the idea that you putting up letters. Randly. randomly. I don't know if that would you. It was you, but to us, it looked random and it forced us to think outside of our beta. Right. Okay. Well, let's try it then. Let's try it then. Let's try it. Right. Let's start right here. Well, let's that. No. New. New. Which makes what kind of sound? No.. And sound. No, no? Is that a vowel or a consonant? Consonantant. It's a constant. Yeah. Good, good, good, good. How about this one? Omega. Omega? Yeah, which makes what kind of sound? Oh. Oh, that's right. Omega. Is that a vowel concert? Oh, About. That is a vel, that's right. What about this one? Something. The side? Yeah? That's right. Which makes Speaking for the whole thing. Yeah, that's good, that's good.member Poseidons, Trident? That's. Yeah. And that's the side, sound. which is a vowel or a consonant. Consequ Is right? Let's see here. How about that?. That's Ada? Yeah. It sound does that make? A. Ada, if you know the names, they're usually telling you how to pronounce the letters, right? It's one of those tricky letters where you're looking at it in English. saying, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yep. Yep. That will stay with you. It'll go the opposite. Right? I've told you guys about seeing the sign that says appive and my brain always says artin. Whenever I see it. So that's just, you know. You know what's funny You say that? Because there's like right on 23 somewhere or right on Grasit before you hit 23 There's like a Greek restaurant, but it looks like an American thing. I'm like, that's not how it is in Greek. She's already correcting. Go. No, that's good. That's good. Hey, you're seeing it around you, right? And especially, it's so interesting because obviously Greek, people, Greek culture, that kind of thing, isn't necessarily like the most prominent around here. We have other cultures, but it's still here. There's a presence. We have C. Owens, who's a member of our church, who is Greek and her family was Greek Orthodox and I said, My grandfather was Russian, and his family was part of a Russian Orthodox church growing up, and there's obviously Russian, the Russian language and culture is kind of like a child of the Greek language and culture. And so there's a lot of, you'll notice those kind of connections Is Ada of vowel or consonant? No. Is a vowel, that's right. Uh, let's do an easier one there. This is my handwriting, so And the lower we get, the more difficult it is you know what that is? Yeah beta. That's a beta. What should have a longer tail on it. Yeah? Yeah, right. Don't get caught up in that. You're not The goal isn't handwriting it, right? That's a B sound, right, b up, beta, consonant. What about that one? I'll tell you that a while. rope. No. Fine. Fine. That's right. There's some of them look the same, right? So, yeah, we're learning. Fuss sound, P F. V consonant. Conant. Yeah. That's one of those sounds where trying to relate it back to English and Oh, that's right I mean, you think of Does it look like an F? No. Does't it look like a PH, which is two letters? No.. Yeah. Yeah. You can I don't know if you can try and make like a green Lantern connection if that would help or if you're familiar with philosophy, that symbol might be familiar, just finding any ways to connect it in your brain. This one, which ist completely straight, but I think we can all tell what that is, right? Yeah. Yoda? Yeah. E, yoda, E sound. Debate. You're gonna hear the coinasian pronunciation, which is what we're doing together versus modern Greek, and the people are going to pronounce it in different ways. So, if you end up saying I eat, doesn't really matter. But yoda is how we' how we're saying it, like E sound. In the modern pronunciation is Well, there's. I don't know, for sure. I know with different vowels, they they like Omicron, for example, they pronounce the same as omega. And then you'll hear some people say, Iota, like, you know, not one Iota or Iota. It's all. It's It's all made up. It's artificial. But we'll say Ioda, but if someone says an eye sound when we're talking about something, no, I'm not going to care. And that, of course, is a foul. All right, how about. That one.psol., C. C. Yeah. Sci, is what I said. Si, yeah. C. Yep. Sound.. And that is a bowler consonant. Consonant. Consonant, right? How about that one? E ones. Al. Tousing, Alpha, is not easy? You? Oh, yeah. It's easy.'s first one you heard. That's right. It's the first one. That's it. Alpha, ah, as in father. As in Alpha. Yeah. Yeah. But again. It doesn't really matter. That's what we're gonna say. No one's gonna. Now, people, if there's people like, no Greek can have a preference of pronunciation, they may, Self righteously look at you if you say wrong, say it wrong, but I'm not going to. And that is, of course, a... Wow. Tellt. Delta? Delta? De, which is a consonant. I try to think of it as, oh, the English D written mirror. There you go. I looked at it as an incomplete eight. Okay. Whatever helps you. Whatever.. Yeah. And again, like, some of this with the way I write them is like, my brain is associating them with certain letters or whatever. And again, I'm not writing them for anything. I'm I'm writing them for myself. So who cares if if it looks right to someone else or not? That's still an important point. One of the things, as I try to practice writing these and certain characters like Z, and Delta, trying to wipe that like, okay, do I go from top to bottom, the bottom up, yeah. And I also found out how lousy my indendant should is, right? But it also got me to thinking about, okay, how much deviation can I have and still have it recognizable? I mean, even our English letters, you know, there's a certain amount of deviation you can get away with and other people can recognize it. You know, maybe not to the point of a doctor's signature. But yeah, I was kind of wondering how much deviation I could get away with. And then again, that's when I started thinking, why am I writing this? I should use my Greek keyboard. Yeah. Whatever, whatever is helpful for you, for sure. Love that one... Moon? Yeah, M, m. Consonant. Looks like a small. Yeah, like our regular, yeah. Yep. Gamma. Gamma? G. G. doesn't look anything like Archie. No. No. It's a g, consonant. What else we got here? That one should be easier, right? I' easy.. P. No matter how much you hate it bad bad, you learned that You learned it. Yeah. school you had P day, March 14th, right? That's a consonant. When I was working on on P day, everyone was bringing in pies. Oh, yeah, there you go.s we bring in. This stuff with you. Another easy one. Absolutely salon. Absilon, E. Which is a considerable. What else do we got? That's a.. Thea., which is a conant fos, the word for God, of the theta is often used as an abbreviation for God. This one is also used as an abbreviation also. What's that? Huge. Correct. Where's it kay? Kai. Kai. Like C. Cut, cut, cut. Someone's want me to run out there.'s Used as an abbreviation for Christ. This is why we're not going to get upset at Christmast time when we see Xmas because it's not canceling out Christ, it is an abbreviation for Christ. Chris stops. What else do we got here? Let's see. Zeta. Zeta. Z, Z. continant.ant. Good. All right, what are we missing?. Lame' done. Love, love, love. which is a constantant. What else do we missing? Captain. Yeah, both, just like a K. C. That's why it's easy to remember. Yeah. Another consonant. Signal. Sigma, sigma's the one. We got to remember that there's two of them, right? Sigma, if it's at the end of a word, will look like that. Sigma, if it's anywhere else in the word, it's gonna look like your hicron with the molet going on. Okay.et, okay, I'm like that. What else are we missing? Child. Oh, okay. Tle and Omicran, yet these are ones. They look just like the ladders, right? Tuck, tut, t Omicron. Are either of those ofowel? Omorn. What else is missing? Anything? Row, roll. Row? That one's a little more difficult. looks like a pee, right? Rough. Looks like an incomplete R. Incomplete R. R is the only concept that's going to have a rough breathing mark if it starts a word. Like the word rhetoric with the silent age. Every other word that has a rough breathing mark at the beginning will be a vowel, but you're not going to have to ever think, "When do I have the rough breathing mark? Because you're just going to be reading it. We missing anything else? No. Yep. salon. That's view. That's all of them? Lon is a conant or about?. So we got alpha, beta, Gamma, Delta, Esilon, Zeta, beta, Vega. Ya Kaappa. Line, Omicron, High, Rose. Satan.. Oh God. Yeah. I think at least for every letter somebody answered the right answer, so yeah. We're getting there. And I mean, the song writing them out, like Jerry's typing them, whatever is gonna help you with that. is good. All right. Anything else about the alphabet chapter one is that we can talk as much as you want about accent marks or fununctuation or whatever else is in there. But again, you're not going to be forced to reproduce that at any setting, so you can read about it, learn about it, but getting the alphabet down is really the one kind of you really want to have for chapter one. Anything else, from chapter one right now,s. highlight with the one that seems like it's worth to take a mental note of the changes the pronunciation where the other breathing marks and that they don't. Yeah, the smooth breathing mark, really is just there. reason, but it's it's entirely for our purposes. Like you could not feed in. Right. Aesthetic pleasing. This is a personal question. Yeah. You learning grief. Okay. what you comfortable doing what you just did? Just writing those randomly? Well, I was gonna be forced to take a quiz on it. Yeah, that's why I'm asking. Right. With then, probably within a day or two, a first learning it. Ooh, you really have your. Yeah, had to cram. But you got to remember, number one, when you when you're, I mean, at that point, I guess I was 20, because I didn't take it. Younger, 17 years younger, with no children. We weren't married yet. We weren't engaged. But, I mean, my life was school. You know, you're in school. Like it's all it's like it's all you really doing. And so, and then the pressure of like, I have to take the quiz on this. I'm paying for this class. My dad's not gonna be happy. If I fail this class, I'm gonna have to take it again. If I fail this class. So, yeah. Probably. But I mean, for it to stick just like, you know, in college, I was getting through it, and I hadn't really developed a love for it. I actually didn't like it that much. By seminary, I really, when I took Greek and seminary, I was focused, I wanted to know what I wanted to do well. I studied a lot. Like, every day. I mean, every day I would look at stuff. If you actually answered my real question, which was, what was the expectation when you were starting to learn it? Yeah.. I mean, when you when we take this in a Bible college or seminary, it's like Jeff Hill'll lecture on chapter 1, He's like, go home, read it. Depending on your schedule, right? Because for for languages, at least at voice, it would we' take them Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, an hour a day, every week. They didn't offer them really in any other, because they wanted the consistency. That's right. So it would be like Tuesday, 9 a.m. class, 9 to 10, and then go home and read chapter 1 and be ready to say good quiz on the alphabet tomorrow. And then tomorrow I'm lecturing on chapter two. And yet you were taking noted classes as well. Right. Yeah. Bravo. Yeah. Well, thank you. You said this whole book was like one semester, right? This is one semester in seminary. Oh. This was a whole year in Boyce. So our schedule that we were going to try and keep was going to be like a Bible college schedule and different seminars are different. Shane said at RT, they take three semesters of Greek, two of them for elementary, and then one for syntax and exegesus. So at Southern, we would have two semesters of Greek, required, and we'd do all of elementary and then syntax next to Jesus at RTS, they do like the Bible College schedule for elementary and then the one class for syntax. It just makes me thinking how far ahead, classical Christian education was. Oh, 16 to 17th century that not only did they learn g, but they had to debain in Greek. Latin. Yeah, I know. In language Eit is when you start thinking in that in that language, in any language. I seriously doubt any of us I'm going to get there with this class because I think we're always going to be thinking, oh, what's the English word for this? as we learn it. Dr. Brett said a great quote to me from C.S. Lewis's book Surprised by Joy, where he talks about when he had to learn Greek from the great knock was his professor. And what would he have been? Like middle school or high school age, then? Yeah, yeah. It have been young school. The way that they did education then. And that's exactly what he said. He's like, you, he's like, I figured that. I know Greek when I start to think in Greek, where Nahas doesn't mean the English word horse orb or whatever it is. Maybe it's ship. Nas doesn't mean that the English word "ship." When you see the English word "ship," and the Greek word "Nas mean the same thing. They mean you're picturing this.. Yeah, you're picturing it. You're picturing it. And so when if and when any of us, because I'm not saying and saying I'm anywhere near that, can get to that, that's when the language has really taken, you know, deep root when you're not doing English equivalence, but we have to start somewhere and we all speak English, right? So that's the, but yeah, that's like where you're just like advanced. You know, it's it's hidden in your heart kind of knowledge. My Spanish teacher always said, if you dreamt in that language, that's how you would know. Yeah. That's legit. What's hard about this, too, though, is, now, against C.S. Lewis was doing doing, he was doing classical Greek and C in Greek, but in languages like Spanish, people are speaking it. It's alive. You can engage. This is what we're doing is for the sole purpose of reading the New Testament, you know, and you could even branch out into trying to read the Septuent or learning some classical Greek or whatever, but our focus is just on that. Now, there's verses you could know and memorize and have in your heart from the Greek New Testament, and that would be effective in that way, but in terms of like, I'm going to go to Greece and engage people based on what I learned here, it's not an exact equivalent, and they would be looking at you like, why are you you speaking weird? You know, we don't talk this way. Would they think of it as like we think of old English. Shakespearerian. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. And English as evolved even more than Greek has, so it would be closer than that, but they would look at you weird, like, why is this weirdo trying to like, why is this American trying to speak incorrectly our language? You know, wouldn't they wouldn't especially with the pronunciation and with the vocabulary, we're learning is limited to the New Testament. We're not learning like modern, you, verbage and vernacular. You kind of remind me of something. I ran into many, many years ago, my company sent me to Paris for some operations there, because they French. In fact, we have a couple of us were sent there. And I found out very quickly, you know, oh, they were sneering at me because I was speaking Canadian and French, and there is a difference. And they noticed it and. French people in American, you know, chat. They' snobbish, right? Well, I just found out.. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Same attitude, though, right? Yes. same attitude. Yeah, it's not French unless it's real. French or what they call French. Yeah, yeah. Pure. Pure, pure French. Yeah. Like B was saying, can you give some examples of like, the difference of how you would pronounce something with the accent Margly with the hard breathing mark? Yeah. Because it's easy to read it. It's hard to... Absolutely. pronounce that.. Let's just use the ex example from the passage that we read, the word ark. Jesus says, I am the first and the last. Also, think of John 1 in the beginning was the word, and ark andas. So ark has a, what kind of breathing mark is this? Rough breathing mark. This is a smooth. Oh, is when it's facing that way, this is a smooth, this is a rough. So rough is, think about like rough is affecting the word, smoothooth is not. It's looking out, it's not affecting it. The rough is affecting it. It's changing it. So it's it's pointed that way. So versus like from your paradigm high phone. You got a rough breathing mark here. That's not i iPhone 9. That's high phone 9. That's RK. And whenever there's a vowel, anywhere is starting with a vowel, there's going to be some breathing mark, either rough or smooth. When there's two vowels, like in your article here, you're nominative, feminine, plural article, the breathing marks always going to be over the second vowel. So here is over. The vowel is followed by a consonant. RK, that you have your exit mark that's not really affecting anything for you, other than your pronunciation or K. You're emphasizing the A up, the rough breathing mark, high phone 9. So if it was a rough breathing mark over top of Ark, it would be like HK? Yeah. Yep. Does that swirl around my head. Yeah. But again, you're not gonna have to produce it. It's already there, right? So It's just pronunciation. It's just pronunciation. So basically, the opposite C is the normal way to say it, a regular C. It was with the age. Yeah, the opposite C means it's not changing it at all. That's why it's looking this way, because the word's not going to be effective. So it's not looking at the word. Yeah. I got you. That's not the real reason. I just made that up hopefully to help. No, that makes sense. Help us. But if if it's looking at the word, it's going to change it, and it's always going to be an H sound. You're not going to learn some new breathing mark in the future that's going to add something else that is there's the rough and the smooth. That's it. And these were added later by scholars to help non Greek speakers learn how to speak it. John and Paul didn't write accent marks. Question so certain terms because it can change the spelling. it can change the actual word. So it's just context that would have driven the meaning. So that's actually to kind of maybe conceptualize, like they're helpful because they do help us delineate terms too, that would otherwise be. That is very true. As you're left for interpretive matters like, you know, like high means something, right? And like, you know, if you take it away, like it, you know, that wouldn't be a good example. If I' saying you know what I'm? Yeah, yeah. No, there is like, like, most of it is a lot of it is with particles. And again, this is where Dr. Brett is right in everything he's saying. I'm not saying any of this because I'm trying, I'm trying to just kind of take you step by step. He is correct. There are words. So when I say, it doesn't really matter. What I mean is, like, for you right now trying to figure this out, it doesn't really matter. There will there are words, particles,, pronouns, that if they have a rough breathing mark, they mean something different than if they have a smooth breathing mark. But again, the apostles didn't write those, and so translators and interpreters are guessing based on context, what that word is. Jerry. All that said? Yeah. Should have an accent Yeah, I just didn't write it because, again, I don't really care because I'm not going to because I'm not going to have a write it, right? I'm going to read it. But yes. I suspected it was there, but I was wondering, yeah, it like they have no accent? Yeah. There are words that don't have literally, so everything we're talking about right now, this week when I was been the last couple weeks I've been translating through Romans IV, because for the sermons. And there were words, and I committed subscrible errors, where I wrote wrong breathing marks, and so I was like, what is this word? This doesn't fit what's going on here. And I had written, I because I write it out and then translated it just to help myself internalize more. And I made subscrible errors and I had to correct my accent marks. So to Dr. Breastpoint, but there was a word in Roman for post and I think it meant how or or something. I was asking a question, how it is, and there was no accent mark, but most, I mean, that's pretty rare. Most words have some kind of accent. It's actually expected to have a circum flux and it didn't, so. But again, Paul didn't write any XMRs at all, so We are rapidly running out of time, so let me review for you, because the paradigm that you're gonna write out and learn them, did I send you the song on the website, the song that goes through the feminine? It actually goes through the feminine and the masculine, which we haven't got the masculine yet, but the song, the book, the lectures, let me, let's real quickly do some review of what all of this means so you don't feel like you're looking at it like, I'm just r memorizing this picture that I don't really understand. So, when we a review, and did we do this? Did we do the golf St. Brown sentence a couple weeks ago when we did that again? Yeah, so let's review that just so kind of we've got to know what's going on. Go off. through, the ball. to St. Brown. Let's hold this happens today. A lot. What is the subject of this sentence? Gough is the subject. Which in the Greek, what Greek case represents the subject? I'm going to. The nominative. The nominative is the naming case. For our purposes right now, the nominative always means the subject. We know, we're talking about now, so we won't worry about this too much right now. Butthrough is the verb, right? Verb is what you do. He through. the ball. What is the ball? How's the ball functioning in the sentence?? It's. It's the direct object.. And in Greek, what case represents the direct object? Acc The accusative. for our purposes now, the accusative always represents the direct object. And then what is St. Brown? To St. Brown. indirect. The indirect object. That's right. So, if we had these endings on our words as the Greeks do, then we could mishmash this sentence up to St. Brownio, throughva Valdo Ga. V. And it would mean the same exact thing, right? We're indicating our cases based on placement in the sentence, usually, and the Greeks did not. The Greek is it inflected language, and so they had these inflections, these endings, on their words, on the roots of their words, to indicate function in the sentence. The somewhat typical pattern in the New Testament for a sentence is verb subject, object, object, that is frequently broken, so we're not going to feel super tied to that, but that is a general pattern in the sentence. We could even as we've got the nom, the accusative, the interrupt object is what case in Greek. what case represents the indirect object? The dated, that's right. And we could even, if we wanted to round this out, say that Goth of the lions threw the ball to St. Brown and of the lions would be possessive, which would represent the genitive case. Could you also, like, if you change the word of the, it's a his, would that change the case to the genitive too? Because it would be his ball instead of the ball.. Yeah, absolutely. You could. Then the ball would be in the genitive case. and not golf. Right. Or Goff, really the genitive would be on the lines. But yeah, and it would in the New Testament, it would say something like Goth through the ball of him to Saint. Brown. So whenever you read in your English translation his, this, his, that, they're, they're not giving you the literal wooden translation. They're interpreting it and speaking the way that we would speak. Would there be that situation that would just been agend? Yeah, that's true. The ball would not be in the accusative case. if that was it. So if the sentence was the this way, it would have all four cases. in the sentence. Yeah. And so as you're looking at your paradigm, like this is what's going on, you're learning these cases so that when you read a Greek sentence, like you know what's going on. do you remember the one we did Wednesday? I'm trying to remember. There was a Greek example we use for just kind of explaining all this. if if there was a sentence, a hypothetical sentence that said something like what was that structure? Yeah, if it's that just to show how it would work in a sentence... I'm at the top of my head, I'm not remembering exactly how the imperative looks, so this is probably wrong, but whatever. You'll get the point of it. If you see this sentence, isn't a made up sentence. Okay? But if it was in the Bible and said, "Hey, Ponet, to Theu,,iste. And this form is probably wrong. But this again is hypothetical. The voice of God is saying belief. That's this is what it could hypothetically when lay. We know that the subject of this sentence is a bonet. How do we know that? Because I know my nominative feminine singular. We know that toothu is in the genitive, and we haven't gotten the masculine is a masculine word, but we would know, because this is a genitive, this is how it's functioning a sense, because I know that paradigm, right? And then you got these verbs that we haven't learned yet. But just think about hey. It's telling you based on the article based on the form, what the function is in the sentence. That's why we're learning these paradigms, not just to know all these different forms, but so that when we read the New Testament, we can understand how it fits together, what it's doing in the sentence, so that we can know what it means, so that we can interpret it. Yeah, I think this is the example we use. So this is really helping whenever you have the preacher the teachers say, in the great kid says this and like sounds like this executive thing and you're going to kind of like, well yeah, that's why they translate that way. This is a good example of because I asked, I said, I said, could someone translate this? God's voice says in the theoreically we couldn't we would understand kind of the similar thought, but you can see in the Greek that it's the voice that a subject. So it's the voice of God. I mean, and so God's voice is an alternative translation, but it's there is interpretive decisions being made there to move God into the subject, denominative rather than the voice, which of the author of the Greek is to. Right, so hypothetically, if that's the case, right, you have, let's say you're reading a, whether it's the ESV, the NIV, whatever something that's got a more kind of loose conversational translation. If they say God's voice says belief is the meaning, the true meaning of the verse, is that altered? No. That is really what the text means. But when we understand that phone is the subject, well, why is that? Is the author emphasizing or placing the voice of God as the subject of the sentence to emphasize something to us maybe about that God is a God who speaks, that he communicates. He's not like a mute idol. Or that, you know, that through the word now, you know, we can we still hear the voice of God because he's a speaking God, and he's created as communicator. All this is hypothetical. It's made up, but that's where those nuances are, which ultimately isn't changing the meaning of the text. Like, we're getting what it means, but we can see it a little cleare. We can see what Paul or John or Matthew, or however, was really sayingane. It's a, I don't know what the term would say. Like the Greek term for, rot or staff or something. And it says something like, the rod of God says, believe, carries connotations of, like, of rule, like, you listen, you believe in part because the rod holds the authority. And I think that's probably something like in this man sense. That's what the voice is doing, is showing you that the guy is it's got communicative speaking, his relational, that is this different than a different term we say, that would be pointing to wrath. Yeah. like when you flip it, then you're focuses on God. I mean, there's a lot that falls into the vin of what you think of when you think of God, right? Right. Absolutely. Right. So point of all that, and I know we got to go, because we I need to get at least use the restroom. But so as you're, you know, trying to memorize, learn these paradigms, remember why you're doing it. that motivation of why you're doing it. Not like, oh, my gosh, this is a lot. I just got to keep r memorizing. No, like, you want to be able to read the news estimate. And this is going to help you decipher how to read the New Testament, okay? So next week, we're going to try to do chapter three, all right? Unless everybody comes in and they're like, still not getting it. Then we will move at the pace we have to, but we will try. So don't even worry about looking at chapter three, if you're still feeling some burden of one and two, just focus on one and two, get it down, and And let's do our best, okay? We have the alphabet memorized and the Aa and alpha patterns, memorized for the paradigms, then we're good. Then you're good. Yeah. So just to simplify it down to, like, you don't need to know every single word of each chapter. The alphabet and the two paradigms. If you get that, you're in a good spot. You're still see who's. You're in the head. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. And I don't want to be unaware of it. We don't want to press through, and then, let's all get defeated. So let me say a quick prayer to close this out, and then we'll go to church. Father, thank you for the gospel. Thank you for this church, Christ Comm church. Thank you for this class. We ask that you would bless us, that you would give us discipline to know and be able to read your word, but we would also have grace to understand that this is just a hobby that we're doing together. Give us perseverance, all for your glory and for our good, we pray in the name of Jesus, and by the power of the Spirit. Amen. Thank you.